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		<title>By: jestep</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21513</link>
		<dc:creator>jestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One more thing. If my credit card processor and my credit card gateway are both PCI Compliant, then why do I have to be PCI Compliant. We are already getting fee-d to death by both of them for every transaction and now we have to pay more fees.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

First off, security metrics isn&#039;t at fault here. Your processor has outsourced PCI to Security Metrics and your processor is responsible for these charges.

Second, you should be able to get a refund for the extra merchant numbers. A business only needs to get PCI certified once. It&#039;s ridiculous that they wouldn&#039;t refund you for the accounts past the first on on this.

Lastly, as long as your business plays part in accepting a credit card, you are just as liable for a breach as your payment gateway or processor.

I think based on the experience that you are having, you need to find a new processor. It&#039;s completely unacceptable that you would be charged multiple times for this. The fact that they wouldn&#039;t refund past the first charge just makes no sense. PCI is not something that is going away, but it shouldn&#039;t be a burden to the point that it&#039;s really hampering your business. Your processor obviously doesn&#039;t care for your business even though you have several accounts with them. Go find somebody that does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One more thing. If my credit card processor and my credit card gateway are both PCI Compliant, then why do I have to be PCI Compliant. We are already getting fee-d to death by both of them for every transaction and now we have to pay more fees.</p></blockquote>
<p>First off, security metrics isn&#8217;t at fault here. Your processor has outsourced PCI to Security Metrics and your processor is responsible for these charges.</p>
<p>Second, you should be able to get a refund for the extra merchant numbers. A business only needs to get PCI certified once. It&#8217;s ridiculous that they wouldn&#8217;t refund you for the accounts past the first on on this.</p>
<p>Lastly, as long as your business plays part in accepting a credit card, you are just as liable for a breach as your payment gateway or processor.</p>
<p>I think based on the experience that you are having, you need to find a new processor. It&#8217;s completely unacceptable that you would be charged multiple times for this. The fact that they wouldn&#8217;t refund past the first charge just makes no sense. PCI is not something that is going away, but it shouldn&#8217;t be a burden to the point that it&#8217;s really hampering your business. Your processor obviously doesn&#8217;t care for your business even though you have several accounts with them. Go find somebody that does.</p>
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		<title>By: jestep</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21512</link>
		<dc:creator>jestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

I am being charged $139.80 per year for PCI Compliance by Transaction Solitions, (a provider of First Data). I am switching to Sam’s Club, (also a provider of First Data), because they have offered me a PCI Compliance fee on only $39.00 per year. Also they are lowering my MC &amp; Visa discount rate from 2.035% to 1.49%.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t be too sure on Sam&#039;s being cheaper. We and just about every other reasonable processor in the country is lower priced than sams club. The rate you&#039;re quoting is only for qualified transactions. You end up paying for it on downgrades. 1.49% is a debit only rate also. Your credit rate will be more like 1.7 - 1.8%. Just by the fact that Sam&#039;s is trying to use smoke and mirrors to get your business, I would stay away. There&#039;s plenty of honest, upfront providers out there that have cheaper PCI fees than $140 per year.</description>
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<p>I am being charged $139.80 per year for PCI Compliance by Transaction Solitions, (a provider of First Data). I am switching to Sam’s Club, (also a provider of First Data), because they have offered me a PCI Compliance fee on only $39.00 per year. Also they are lowering my MC &#038; Visa discount rate from 2.035% to 1.49%.</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too sure on Sam&#8217;s being cheaper. We and just about every other reasonable processor in the country is lower priced than sams club. The rate you&#8217;re quoting is only for qualified transactions. You end up paying for it on downgrades. 1.49% is a debit only rate also. Your credit rate will be more like 1.7 &#8211; 1.8%. Just by the fact that Sam&#8217;s is trying to use smoke and mirrors to get your business, I would stay away. There&#8217;s plenty of honest, upfront providers out there that have cheaper PCI fees than $140 per year.</p>
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		<title>By: LaMar</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21511</link>
		<dc:creator>LaMar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am being charged $139.80 per year for PCI Compliance by Transaction Solitions, (a provider of First Data).   I am switching to Sam&#039;s Club, (also a provider of First Data), because they have offered me a PCI Compliance fee on only $39.00 per year.  Also they are lowering my MC &amp; Visa discount rate from 2.035% to 1.49%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am being charged $139.80 per year for PCI Compliance by Transaction Solitions, (a provider of First Data).   I am switching to Sam&#8217;s Club, (also a provider of First Data), because they have offered me a PCI Compliance fee on only $39.00 per year.  Also they are lowering my MC &amp; Visa discount rate from 2.035% to 1.49%.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Perez</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21463</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 04:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand everyones frustration with PCI compliance but is something that is very real and for all the complaining for 70-$100  a year this service is really not much.  Just think of what other business expenses you have that do not really do much for you.  Yellow pages, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand everyones frustration with PCI compliance but is something that is very real and for all the complaining for 70-$100  a year this service is really not much.  Just think of what other business expenses you have that do not really do much for you.  Yellow pages, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Blum</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21418</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing.  If my credit card processor and my credit card gateway are both PCI Compliant, then why do I have to be PCI Compliant.  We are already getting fee-d to death by both of them for every transaction and now we have to pay more fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing.  If my credit card processor and my credit card gateway are both PCI Compliant, then why do I have to be PCI Compliant.  We are already getting fee-d to death by both of them for every transaction and now we have to pay more fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Blum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Blum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got hit with 4 charges from my credit card processor - $99 each - for two e-commerce sites, 1 wireless credit card machine and 1 plug in credit card terminal.  I can see where Security Metrics can scan my websites, but how can they scan my physical credit card machines I have in my small office at home?  How can they tell if my credit card machines are PCI Compliant?  Has anyone started a class action suit as of yet.  We are small business owners and had to get a loan for the $396 PCI Compliant fees for Security Metrics.   We also had no choice - the credit card processor - Integrated Merchant Services - just took the money from my checking accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got hit with 4 charges from my credit card processor &#8211; $99 each &#8211; for two e-commerce sites, 1 wireless credit card machine and 1 plug in credit card terminal.  I can see where Security Metrics can scan my websites, but how can they scan my physical credit card machines I have in my small office at home?  How can they tell if my credit card machines are PCI Compliant?  Has anyone started a class action suit as of yet.  We are small business owners and had to get a loan for the $396 PCI Compliant fees for Security Metrics.   We also had no choice &#8211; the credit card processor &#8211; Integrated Merchant Services &#8211; just took the money from my checking accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: jestep</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21331</link>
		<dc:creator>jestep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Anyone who gets PCI compliant should be hanged publicly. This is the biggest fraud since the Federal Reserve. Just like the Federal Reserve the PCI Security Standards Council was founded by and for banks, for profit through manipulative scam fees and for the protection of their money. Everyone knows that a bank is responsible for stolen card charges. The banks didn’t have to fight the law though. Instead they made the public pay for it through PCI compliance.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The banks are not responsible for stolen card charges. The charges go back to the merchant, and then to the processor, and then to the acquirer. There&#039;s no way the bank is on the hook at any point in the fraudulent charge process. They are also not making anything from PCI fees. I personally have major reservations about the way PCI has been presented, but what you&#039;re saying is completely inaccurate.

Furthermore, Congress has openly stated that PCI is not near enough. Since merchant&#039;s ignored Visa/MC warnings about PCI, we&#039;re in a painful situation in trying to get everyone compliant. It&#039;s going to get more more strict in the years to come.</description>
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Anyone who gets PCI compliant should be hanged publicly. This is the biggest fraud since the Federal Reserve. Just like the Federal Reserve the PCI Security Standards Council was founded by and for banks, for profit through manipulative scam fees and for the protection of their money. Everyone knows that a bank is responsible for stolen card charges. The banks didn’t have to fight the law though. Instead they made the public pay for it through PCI compliance.
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<p>The banks are not responsible for stolen card charges. The charges go back to the merchant, and then to the processor, and then to the acquirer. There&#8217;s no way the bank is on the hook at any point in the fraudulent charge process. They are also not making anything from PCI fees. I personally have major reservations about the way PCI has been presented, but what you&#8217;re saying is completely inaccurate.</p>
<p>Furthermore, Congress has openly stated that PCI is not near enough. Since merchant&#8217;s ignored Visa/MC warnings about PCI, we&#8217;re in a painful situation in trying to get everyone compliant. It&#8217;s going to get more more strict in the years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: mikemike</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21330</link>
		<dc:creator>mikemike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who gets PCI compliant should be hanged publicly. This is the biggest fraud since the Federal Reserve. Just like the Federal Reserve the PCI Security Standards Council was founded by and for banks, for profit through manipulative scam fees and for the protection of their money. Everyone knows that a bank is responsible for stolen card charges. The banks didn&#039;t have to fight the law though. Instead they made the public pay for it through PCI compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who gets PCI compliant should be hanged publicly. This is the biggest fraud since the Federal Reserve. Just like the Federal Reserve the PCI Security Standards Council was founded by and for banks, for profit through manipulative scam fees and for the protection of their money. Everyone knows that a bank is responsible for stolen card charges. The banks didn&#8217;t have to fight the law though. Instead they made the public pay for it through PCI compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: batman</title>
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		<dc:creator>batman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all security metrics uses to scan you systems is nmap and a few other open source software to scn for open ports. thats all they really do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all security metrics uses to scan you systems is nmap and a few other open source software to scn for open ports. thats all they really do</p>
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		<title>By: Craig H.</title>
		<link>http://www.merchantaccountblog.com/336/forcing-software-for-pci-compliance/comment-page-1#comment-21207</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes I&#039;d like the number for Cambridge.  I had first data and i cancelled it and am using propay. It SEEMS awesome as long as you don&#039;t do more than $3000 per month in sales...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I&#8217;d like the number for Cambridge.  I had first data and i cancelled it and am using propay. It SEEMS awesome as long as you don&#8217;t do more than $3000 per month in sales&#8230;</p>
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